The Rio Karma is now the MP3 player I'd like to have. It has the ability to sync via ethernet, it includes a Java client for accessibility from Linux and Mac, and it's cheaper than an iPod. Oh, and it includes OGG support, which I'd really like on my Sony Clie (if Sony would ever release the audio specifications. I'd dump MP3 in a heartbeat if that were the case.) And it can be had cheaper than an iPod. It doesn't have iTunes support (whoops), and it doesn't play AAC files, but unless you already have Apple's iTunes service, you probably won't need it. Kudos to Rio for making a player worthy of competing against the iPod.